Jurgen Pitaske
2019-09-13 16:08:57 UTC
And why Hugh Aguilar is as frustrated as we have seen here
over the last 10 to 20 years.
He has been agressive for so many years here,
and at least we now know that
he has been fired from TESTRA after about one year there.
It seems he is intelligent,
so why has there not more been produced since then?
This is for others to discuss.
Beyond my knowledge regarding Forth Programming.
As I had stated here,
I would ask after so many accusations
TESTRA directly, as I know them, and
as they are always used as such a brilliant work experience.
The official answer from Tom Hart, their president,
who agreed to have his answer to me published on clf:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Juergen,
Nice to hear from you. I was going to answer your prior Email, but got busy.
Some answers regarding your questions:
Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was
I did not go back and look at the payroll records,
but to my recollection it was on the order of a year or so.
Or if he was just a contractor/consultant
Maybe at the beginning.
How long this working relationship lasted
As I stated, maybe a year or so.
Why your relationship ceased,
He was difficult to work with.
He did fine if it was something he could do by himself without supervision,
but if it was a team effort, forget it.
I let him go myself,
after I had given him a project to write a DXF converter to HPGL code.
He would not take any direction.
I scrapped the project.
and what he really achieved at TESTRA??
He wrote our Forth compiler for the processor
that we implemented in a Lattice PLD.
He did a good job on it,
we are still using it with a few bug fixes and minor modifications.
He had nothing to do with the processor itself,
that was all designed by John Hart and Steve Brault.
The PLD version was based upon our original Forth Engine done long before we ever ran across Hugh.
In summary,
Hugh is very intelligent, very knowledgeable about Forth,
but is not really a team player.
Sounds like the Forth community has some problems with non team players.
You can quote me, but it has to be all or none of the above!
Thomas W. Hart, Jr.
President
Testra Corporation
1201 N Stadem Drive
Tempe AZ 85281
***@testra.com
www.testra.com
(480)560-6141 cell
(480)966-8428 office
(480)966-7215 fax
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
and for completeness the email I had sent to TESTRA and I had posted here somewhere before I had sent it:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Regarding: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/9IHvRJmMn20
Dear Tom,
We have not spoken for a while.
This email is not really regarding business now, but trying to put the history right.
Regarding Testra and regarding Hugh Aguilar.
Hugh Aguilar basically says for years here on clf. that he has basically invented the MFX processor of Testra,
And the software that basically runs the company TESTRA.
I do not mind if this were true, but I really doubt it,
as now – over probably 10 or 20 years -
Not much has been published/ posted by him as far as I have seen;
– rather than these insults and telling other people are liars and worse
– actually everybody who has a different opinion.
According to his info he gave here,
he now drives taxis or tractors for a living.
No reference to any programming.
http://www.quoteambition.com/inspiring-mark-twain-quotes-life/
This quote should be very inspiring for the EuroForth writers:
“Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.”
Anton Ertl is the referee for the "academic" papers.
He and Bernd Paysan wrote a refereed paper for EuroForth-2018
that had no purpose except to attack the rquotations.
They lied when they said:
"the higher-order word that calls the rquotation must not use locals."
AFAIK, Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan are lying about the rquotations
as a service to Stephen Pelc who will later "invent" rquotations
or something similar as a proprietary VFX feature
Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan don't believe that the Forthers
are worthy of being given rquotations for free, but instead believe
that Forthers must pay Stephen Pelc for this feature.
are obtained by getting on your knees and asking Stephen Pelc.
You may be told to attack my code by lying about it.
You may be told to not invent useful Forth features that
Stephen Pelc plans on inventing later as proprietary VFX features.
You may be told to not write any working Forth code, but instead
to submit vague dreams about what it would be like to write
working Forth code (as Peter Knaggs and Andrew Haley did).
Ultimately, everybody who goes to EuroForth will dishonor themselves
with blatant lying and purposeful ignorance.
Such and worse posts come on a daily / weekly basis as you can verify yourself.
I have been a target myself as well.
Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was
Or if he was just a contractor/consultant
How long this working relationship lasted
Why your relationship ceased,
and what he really achieved at TESTRA??
Some partial answers would be very helpful already.
Just to make it clear:
I have no business relationship with MPE anymore so this is a purely private activity.
But as it makes me sick how he behaves on clf,
It was worth at least trying to find out and write this email,
to find out
if what he states about your relationship is true and his software runs or did run TESTRA
or if this can be put right.
This email sent to you has been published as is on clf as well.
Please mark in your answer to me,
which part of your answer I can quote.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kind regards
Juergen
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Now the facts about his history are clearer.
over the last 10 to 20 years.
He has been agressive for so many years here,
and at least we now know that
he has been fired from TESTRA after about one year there.
It seems he is intelligent,
so why has there not more been produced since then?
This is for others to discuss.
Beyond my knowledge regarding Forth Programming.
As I had stated here,
I would ask after so many accusations
TESTRA directly, as I know them, and
as they are always used as such a brilliant work experience.
The official answer from Tom Hart, their president,
who agreed to have his answer to me published on clf:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Juergen,
Nice to hear from you. I was going to answer your prior Email, but got busy.
Some answers regarding your questions:
Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was
I did not go back and look at the payroll records,
but to my recollection it was on the order of a year or so.
Or if he was just a contractor/consultant
Maybe at the beginning.
How long this working relationship lasted
As I stated, maybe a year or so.
Why your relationship ceased,
He was difficult to work with.
He did fine if it was something he could do by himself without supervision,
but if it was a team effort, forget it.
I let him go myself,
after I had given him a project to write a DXF converter to HPGL code.
He would not take any direction.
I scrapped the project.
and what he really achieved at TESTRA??
He wrote our Forth compiler for the processor
that we implemented in a Lattice PLD.
He did a good job on it,
we are still using it with a few bug fixes and minor modifications.
He had nothing to do with the processor itself,
that was all designed by John Hart and Steve Brault.
The PLD version was based upon our original Forth Engine done long before we ever ran across Hugh.
In summary,
Hugh is very intelligent, very knowledgeable about Forth,
but is not really a team player.
Sounds like the Forth community has some problems with non team players.
You can quote me, but it has to be all or none of the above!
Thomas W. Hart, Jr.
President
Testra Corporation
1201 N Stadem Drive
Tempe AZ 85281
***@testra.com
www.testra.com
(480)560-6141 cell
(480)966-8428 office
(480)966-7215 fax
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
and for completeness the email I had sent to TESTRA and I had posted here somewhere before I had sent it:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Regarding: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/9IHvRJmMn20
Dear Tom,
We have not spoken for a while.
This email is not really regarding business now, but trying to put the history right.
Regarding Testra and regarding Hugh Aguilar.
Hugh Aguilar basically says for years here on clf. that he has basically invented the MFX processor of Testra,
And the software that basically runs the company TESTRA.
I do not mind if this were true, but I really doubt it,
as now – over probably 10 or 20 years -
Not much has been published/ posted by him as far as I have seen;
– rather than these insults and telling other people are liars and worse
– actually everybody who has a different opinion.
According to his info he gave here,
he now drives taxis or tractors for a living.
No reference to any programming.
EuroForth 2019 will be held in Hamburg, Germany on September 13-15.
The deadline for the academic stream (refereed) papers is June 30. So
now is the time to write up your research to have it ready by the
deadline. For industrial (non-refereed) papers the deadline is August
31.
I have been reading some "inspiring Mark Twain quotes on life"The deadline for the academic stream (refereed) papers is June 30. So
now is the time to write up your research to have it ready by the
deadline. For industrial (non-refereed) papers the deadline is August
31.
http://www.quoteambition.com/inspiring-mark-twain-quotes-life/
This quote should be very inspiring for the EuroForth writers:
“Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.”
Anton Ertl is the referee for the "academic" papers.
He and Bernd Paysan wrote a refereed paper for EuroForth-2018
that had no purpose except to attack the rquotations.
They lied when they said:
"the higher-order word that calls the rquotation must not use locals."
AFAIK, Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan are lying about the rquotations
as a service to Stephen Pelc who will later "invent" rquotations
or something similar as a proprietary VFX feature
Anton Ertl and Bernd Paysan don't believe that the Forthers
are worthy of being given rquotations for free, but instead believe
that Forthers must pay Stephen Pelc for this feature.
The call for papers including submission instructions can be found on
<http://www.euroforth.org/ef19/cfp.html>.
The actual "submission instructions" EuroForth aspirants need,<http://www.euroforth.org/ef19/cfp.html>.
are obtained by getting on your knees and asking Stephen Pelc.
You may be told to attack my code by lying about it.
You may be told to not invent useful Forth features that
Stephen Pelc plans on inventing later as proprietary VFX features.
You may be told to not write any working Forth code, but instead
to submit vague dreams about what it would be like to write
working Forth code (as Peter Knaggs and Andrew Haley did).
Ultimately, everybody who goes to EuroForth will dishonor themselves
with blatant lying and purposeful ignorance.
Such and worse posts come on a daily / weekly basis as you can verify yourself.
I have been a target myself as well.
Is it possible for you to tell
For how long he was an employee of Testra if he was
Or if he was just a contractor/consultant
How long this working relationship lasted
Why your relationship ceased,
and what he really achieved at TESTRA??
Some partial answers would be very helpful already.
Just to make it clear:
I have no business relationship with MPE anymore so this is a purely private activity.
But as it makes me sick how he behaves on clf,
It was worth at least trying to find out and write this email,
to find out
if what he states about your relationship is true and his software runs or did run TESTRA
or if this can be put right.
This email sent to you has been published as is on clf as well.
Please mark in your answer to me,
which part of your answer I can quote.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kind regards
Juergen
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Now the facts about his history are clearer.